Manson, Death Valley and Area 51 connection.
Sept 9, 2019 21:53:13 GMT -5
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Post by archangel1 on Sept 9, 2019 21:53:13 GMT -5
Hi all...
First off I'd really like to know if there are surviving members of the Manson family that lurk or participate on these forums. They/you might be interested in what I'm about to post and it might sound familiar.
To any newbies out there who have not heard this part of the Manson murder story... let me shed some light.
Now... Manson and a few of his "family members/followers" made some very strange statements about where they were planning on hiding out after the murders and his "helter skelter" plan took effect.
So... this is the supposed "official" version of Manson's plan. He was to cause a huge race riot between white and black people by murdering elite white celebs and movers and shakers then blaming it on the African American community. After doing this Manson and his family were going to hide out in death valley until all the fighting had stopped. He then said all the black survivors would start fighting with each other after defeating the white people and that's when him and his family would magically reemerge from the desert to be the leader of the remaining black people.
Now... my entire interest in this matter revolves around where Manson and his family were planning on hiding. Most people think Manson's entire plan was to hide in death valley, or to be more specific, the Barker Ranch. This is also the official story but this is where I say the official reports and majority of the public's beliefs are completely wrong.
Barker Ranch and Death Valley were just a stop in his overall plan.
Manson and many of his followers talked about a hole in the ground somewhere in the desert (most people think this desert was death valley). Manson said that down this hole was a giant, beautiful ancient city full of many wonders where him and his family could live and hide until all the fighting was over. This sounds crazy until you hear the history of this land and all the weird stories that surround it.
Now.... let's start with the ancient stories. Almost every native American tribe has oral stories and legends of some crazy things that are out in the desert. Almost all of them talk about an ancient race of red headed giants the roamed the land thousands of years ago. This is all over the western desert areas of the USA. They also have legends of giant caves and tunnels that run huge distances under our country. Many other tribes have legends of an ancient city that was destroyed and left in ruins that used to inhabit the western half of this country. These are just some of the Indian legends and beliefs in the area.
Now you have the Mexicans. I'm going to dumb this down and not really get into the different groups like toltecs, Aztecs, mayans.... I will just say Mexicans as a whole. When the Mexacans were invaded by the Spanish hundreds of years ago the Spanish were amazed when they saw the Mexicans were covered in gold. They had jewelry, plates, bowls, huge sun discs......... made of gold. Everything was made of gold. The Spanish also found giant cities full of temples and pyramids that these people were living in. The Spanish asked if they built these cities. The Spanish were told no. The Spanish were told that these people came from a land in the north. They were told it was once a beautiful place. A very old, ancient and ruined city that could no longer support life. The Spanish were told that this city was once called Aztlan. To make a long story short the greedy Spanish killed the leader and tried to steal all the gold but thousands of Mexicans/Aztecs were sent north with the huge treasure... there last order was to hide it in their original homeland they called aztlan. The Spanish only recovered a small amount of the gold and the treasure has been lost for ages. All anyone knows is they treasure supposedly went north of the Mexico area.
In 1849 gold miners left the Utah area making an expidition to California looking for gold. This expidition was a disaster. The party split up in Nevada and went separate ways. Part of the expidition wandered thru what they called death valley for weeks. They all thought they were going to die. When they finally got out of the desert a few people had some weird stories about ancient ruins and tunnels out in the desert. This is a very famous expidition that went right thru the area we call "Area 51" One of the individuals that walked the entire thing supposedly left a mark in a boulder at papoose dry lake bed. Another man from Pearblossom CA. Actually broke onto the area 51 base in 1993-1994 and hiked most of the base looking for the original mans mark from the 1800's. The man from pearblossom died a few years later from cancer.
There is also a old book called "death valley men" In this book is a story of a man that supposedly went to death valley in the 1930's looking for old gold mines. While digging in an old mine he supposedly dug and fell thru the floor into an older shaft. In the book he explains he walked for miles and then he found something completely crazy. He said he found a destroyed, ancitent, underground city full of mummies of giant people, gold, weapons, machines, a sort of lab that had long dead animals like sabertooth tigers and dinosaurs. In the book it describes these tunnels going for miles, branching off in different directions, leading to rooms full weird shit. One room was supposed to be a sort of temple that had objects that resembled freemason artifacts. There is another story just like this from a different source but I can not remember where I saw that one. Seek and ye shall find.
There is also a very weird story coming out of the Grand Canyon. This is the story of G.E. Kincaid..... the long version is on YouTube but it reads like the death valley story. He said he found hidden in a secret cave a giant underground complex full of giant mummies and gold statues and very weird, misplaced artifacts that could not be identified and/explained. I only mention this story to show the trend of ancient stories. This was also reported in many newspapers the the story vanished.
A very short list of some of the huge megalithic constructions that lie in ruins or that are destroyed in this country that make no sense at all with our current version of history. You all should look at pics of these. The official story is native Americans made these sites even though all the native American elders say the "Anasazi".... there word for "the ancient ones" made these sites and they have only been the caretakers of them.
Grand Canyon
Chaco Canyon
Serpent Mound
Monks Mound
Mount Shasta area.
Skinwalker ranch and surrounding areas.
I could go on and on here.... there are huge burial mounds all over this country. Monks mound is a giant earthen pyramid with a base the size of the great pyramid in egypt.... monks mound is in "almost" downtown St Louis.
Now let's talk about "Area 51" and Bob Lazar for a few minutes. The official story. It's a secret base where the United states tests its newest planes. It's been hidden in the middle of bum-fucked-Egypt (Nevada desert) since the 1950's.... only revealed as a real place a few years ago after almost 70 years of completely lying about its existence.
Bob Lazar was an employee of the goverment and worked out at Area 51. Bob Lazar was the first whistleblower that confirmed the existence of the base and he also said some really weird shit.
I wont spend a lot of time on this because almost all of it is a lie but......
Bob said the government hired him to back engineer alien technology that they recovered from UFO crashes. He said he was working on lasers, partical beam weapons, anti gravity......
Now.... the real interesting thing that Bob said was when he started talking about a weird metal/element he called unempentium or element 115. (There is an actual old video of Bob talking about this on YouTube. This video was well before we discovered this element. In this video, while talking about element 115, Bob makes his most fascinating statement, (atleast to me, someone paying attention to everything) Bob says he overheard someone saying that this metal was not found on an alien spaceship... he said that he overheard that this stuff was really found during an archaeological dig out in the desert! Bob did also say that the goverment told him on other occasions that all of this came from crashed spaceships but he did not think he believed them but he was sure "We" did not create this metal or any of the UFO's the United states had in it possession. He said we either had 7 or 9 of them hidden in and underground lab at S4 in Area 51.
Now you need to know this fact... the US government sorta hides what they call ancient native American sites on military bases. There are many examples of this but I will give you a few. China lake naval weapons base hides in its boundries the Coso petroglyphs (big and little petroglyph canyon to be exact) this area is completely off limits without the navy checking you out, reauthorizing your entrance then you are escorted in to see the ruins. There is also a highly restricted ancient site on the dugway proving grounds. This is completely off limits. Bowing has a factory near Simi Valley Ca. That is sitting on an ancient native site full of ruins and petroglyphs that is completely inaccessible to the public. The goverment also has a nasty habit of turning an archaeological site into what they call a nature preserve to keep the public off and/or away from the site they want to be kept secret.
Now if I have not lost you yet let's peice all of this together. I think Charles Manson either figured out on his own or was told that there was this very strange and secret area that the goverment has been hiding for atleast 70 years if not longer. Now... you need to understand that this area is the hottest, most uninhabitable area on the entire planet. This area was almost completely impossible to get too without modern advancements in transportation and supplies and that's why it has been lost and able to be kept hidden for so long.
I say this area... Area 51, death valley and other surrounding areas in the southwest are the land that the Aztecs once called their homeland; Aztlan........ and the Aztec were still only recycling a very small piece of an even older civilization that encompassed most of the planet that was once called Atlantis.
Area 51 is known for being surrounded by old mines. If you go to Rachel Nv. And go to the Little A'Le'Inn (the only restaurant there that the handful of locals hag out in and ask them where all the mines are they send you in the wrong direction. They send you North a few miles. Those are not the Area 51 mines. I asked about the mines on the base and they told me there were not any. I walked out thinking my theory was wrong then I saw the giant boulder with a bronze plaque on it sitting right near the door of the restaurant. The plaque says it commemorates the mining that went on in the area and it says that the boulder itself came from a mine 8-15 miles to the south.... SOUTH, I read that right. The plaque said to the south.... totally on the area 51 base.
This goes with my theory that this area was once enhabited by an ancient, advanced civilization that was almost completely destroyed. On the surface are some scattered, vitrified megalithic ruins that are almost completely destroyed and underground is where a few brave explorers found a lab (just think Cheyenne Mountain in present day) full of wonders beyond all imagining. This is where we discovered ancient flying ships the public call UFO's. This is how our goverment was able to advance our civilization so fast. Lazers, computers, fiber optics, night vision, robotics, gene splicing. All of this came from this area. This is all talked about in the bible and all other holy writings it's just talked about in different ways. Like the bible and ancient writings would say things like we were creating hybrids and fouling the genetic line of animals... today we call those animal bones dinosaurs. There Is a reason that all the dinosaurs bones in museums are either casts of the bones and not the bones themselves or they are painted with a lead paint the blocks the radiation that is coming off almost all of the dinosaur bones we have recovered. That's another fact they leave out for the public... they are erradiated like they were blasted by a nuclear bomb in a war. Oh... and this little fact makes all their dating totally bullshit yoo but they wont tell you that either.
Esoteric writings all say that Atlantis was ruled by Fallen Angels. Look into it... that's what they really say. Real fallen Angel's ruling Atlantis as God on Atlantis/earth then God punished them or they destroyed their civilization... somehow a flood wrecked everything. It looks like this was real and this area was as important 10,000 years ago as it is now.
If your still there I'll blow your mind more... I say Charles Manson was a real life, in flesh and blood fallen angel and that is why he was able to control his "family" the way he did. This is why he killed who he did. Just think of some of the movies Polanski and his wife were involved in before her death. Rosemary's baby and trying to berth the antichrist anyone? Anton LaVey's connection to a few of Manson's girls.
I just dont know if Manson figured this out on his own or if he got one of the government spooks that are all over Hollywood and Hollywood backlots talking with drugs/girls or both.
First off I'd really like to know if there are surviving members of the Manson family that lurk or participate on these forums. They/you might be interested in what I'm about to post and it might sound familiar.
To any newbies out there who have not heard this part of the Manson murder story... let me shed some light.
Now... Manson and a few of his "family members/followers" made some very strange statements about where they were planning on hiding out after the murders and his "helter skelter" plan took effect.
So... this is the supposed "official" version of Manson's plan. He was to cause a huge race riot between white and black people by murdering elite white celebs and movers and shakers then blaming it on the African American community. After doing this Manson and his family were going to hide out in death valley until all the fighting had stopped. He then said all the black survivors would start fighting with each other after defeating the white people and that's when him and his family would magically reemerge from the desert to be the leader of the remaining black people.
Now... my entire interest in this matter revolves around where Manson and his family were planning on hiding. Most people think Manson's entire plan was to hide in death valley, or to be more specific, the Barker Ranch. This is also the official story but this is where I say the official reports and majority of the public's beliefs are completely wrong.
Barker Ranch and Death Valley were just a stop in his overall plan.
Manson and many of his followers talked about a hole in the ground somewhere in the desert (most people think this desert was death valley). Manson said that down this hole was a giant, beautiful ancient city full of many wonders where him and his family could live and hide until all the fighting was over. This sounds crazy until you hear the history of this land and all the weird stories that surround it.
Now.... let's start with the ancient stories. Almost every native American tribe has oral stories and legends of some crazy things that are out in the desert. Almost all of them talk about an ancient race of red headed giants the roamed the land thousands of years ago. This is all over the western desert areas of the USA. They also have legends of giant caves and tunnels that run huge distances under our country. Many other tribes have legends of an ancient city that was destroyed and left in ruins that used to inhabit the western half of this country. These are just some of the Indian legends and beliefs in the area.
Now you have the Mexicans. I'm going to dumb this down and not really get into the different groups like toltecs, Aztecs, mayans.... I will just say Mexicans as a whole. When the Mexacans were invaded by the Spanish hundreds of years ago the Spanish were amazed when they saw the Mexicans were covered in gold. They had jewelry, plates, bowls, huge sun discs......... made of gold. Everything was made of gold. The Spanish also found giant cities full of temples and pyramids that these people were living in. The Spanish asked if they built these cities. The Spanish were told no. The Spanish were told that these people came from a land in the north. They were told it was once a beautiful place. A very old, ancient and ruined city that could no longer support life. The Spanish were told that this city was once called Aztlan. To make a long story short the greedy Spanish killed the leader and tried to steal all the gold but thousands of Mexicans/Aztecs were sent north with the huge treasure... there last order was to hide it in their original homeland they called aztlan. The Spanish only recovered a small amount of the gold and the treasure has been lost for ages. All anyone knows is they treasure supposedly went north of the Mexico area.
In 1849 gold miners left the Utah area making an expidition to California looking for gold. This expidition was a disaster. The party split up in Nevada and went separate ways. Part of the expidition wandered thru what they called death valley for weeks. They all thought they were going to die. When they finally got out of the desert a few people had some weird stories about ancient ruins and tunnels out in the desert. This is a very famous expidition that went right thru the area we call "Area 51" One of the individuals that walked the entire thing supposedly left a mark in a boulder at papoose dry lake bed. Another man from Pearblossom CA. Actually broke onto the area 51 base in 1993-1994 and hiked most of the base looking for the original mans mark from the 1800's. The man from pearblossom died a few years later from cancer.
There is also a old book called "death valley men" In this book is a story of a man that supposedly went to death valley in the 1930's looking for old gold mines. While digging in an old mine he supposedly dug and fell thru the floor into an older shaft. In the book he explains he walked for miles and then he found something completely crazy. He said he found a destroyed, ancitent, underground city full of mummies of giant people, gold, weapons, machines, a sort of lab that had long dead animals like sabertooth tigers and dinosaurs. In the book it describes these tunnels going for miles, branching off in different directions, leading to rooms full weird shit. One room was supposed to be a sort of temple that had objects that resembled freemason artifacts. There is another story just like this from a different source but I can not remember where I saw that one. Seek and ye shall find.
There is also a very weird story coming out of the Grand Canyon. This is the story of G.E. Kincaid..... the long version is on YouTube but it reads like the death valley story. He said he found hidden in a secret cave a giant underground complex full of giant mummies and gold statues and very weird, misplaced artifacts that could not be identified and/explained. I only mention this story to show the trend of ancient stories. This was also reported in many newspapers the the story vanished.
A very short list of some of the huge megalithic constructions that lie in ruins or that are destroyed in this country that make no sense at all with our current version of history. You all should look at pics of these. The official story is native Americans made these sites even though all the native American elders say the "Anasazi".... there word for "the ancient ones" made these sites and they have only been the caretakers of them.
Grand Canyon
Chaco Canyon
Serpent Mound
Monks Mound
Mount Shasta area.
Skinwalker ranch and surrounding areas.
I could go on and on here.... there are huge burial mounds all over this country. Monks mound is a giant earthen pyramid with a base the size of the great pyramid in egypt.... monks mound is in "almost" downtown St Louis.
Now let's talk about "Area 51" and Bob Lazar for a few minutes. The official story. It's a secret base where the United states tests its newest planes. It's been hidden in the middle of bum-fucked-Egypt (Nevada desert) since the 1950's.... only revealed as a real place a few years ago after almost 70 years of completely lying about its existence.
Bob Lazar was an employee of the goverment and worked out at Area 51. Bob Lazar was the first whistleblower that confirmed the existence of the base and he also said some really weird shit.
I wont spend a lot of time on this because almost all of it is a lie but......
Bob said the government hired him to back engineer alien technology that they recovered from UFO crashes. He said he was working on lasers, partical beam weapons, anti gravity......
Now.... the real interesting thing that Bob said was when he started talking about a weird metal/element he called unempentium or element 115. (There is an actual old video of Bob talking about this on YouTube. This video was well before we discovered this element. In this video, while talking about element 115, Bob makes his most fascinating statement, (atleast to me, someone paying attention to everything) Bob says he overheard someone saying that this metal was not found on an alien spaceship... he said that he overheard that this stuff was really found during an archaeological dig out in the desert! Bob did also say that the goverment told him on other occasions that all of this came from crashed spaceships but he did not think he believed them but he was sure "We" did not create this metal or any of the UFO's the United states had in it possession. He said we either had 7 or 9 of them hidden in and underground lab at S4 in Area 51.
Now you need to know this fact... the US government sorta hides what they call ancient native American sites on military bases. There are many examples of this but I will give you a few. China lake naval weapons base hides in its boundries the Coso petroglyphs (big and little petroglyph canyon to be exact) this area is completely off limits without the navy checking you out, reauthorizing your entrance then you are escorted in to see the ruins. There is also a highly restricted ancient site on the dugway proving grounds. This is completely off limits. Bowing has a factory near Simi Valley Ca. That is sitting on an ancient native site full of ruins and petroglyphs that is completely inaccessible to the public. The goverment also has a nasty habit of turning an archaeological site into what they call a nature preserve to keep the public off and/or away from the site they want to be kept secret.
Now if I have not lost you yet let's peice all of this together. I think Charles Manson either figured out on his own or was told that there was this very strange and secret area that the goverment has been hiding for atleast 70 years if not longer. Now... you need to understand that this area is the hottest, most uninhabitable area on the entire planet. This area was almost completely impossible to get too without modern advancements in transportation and supplies and that's why it has been lost and able to be kept hidden for so long.
I say this area... Area 51, death valley and other surrounding areas in the southwest are the land that the Aztecs once called their homeland; Aztlan........ and the Aztec were still only recycling a very small piece of an even older civilization that encompassed most of the planet that was once called Atlantis.
Area 51 is known for being surrounded by old mines. If you go to Rachel Nv. And go to the Little A'Le'Inn (the only restaurant there that the handful of locals hag out in and ask them where all the mines are they send you in the wrong direction. They send you North a few miles. Those are not the Area 51 mines. I asked about the mines on the base and they told me there were not any. I walked out thinking my theory was wrong then I saw the giant boulder with a bronze plaque on it sitting right near the door of the restaurant. The plaque says it commemorates the mining that went on in the area and it says that the boulder itself came from a mine 8-15 miles to the south.... SOUTH, I read that right. The plaque said to the south.... totally on the area 51 base.
This goes with my theory that this area was once enhabited by an ancient, advanced civilization that was almost completely destroyed. On the surface are some scattered, vitrified megalithic ruins that are almost completely destroyed and underground is where a few brave explorers found a lab (just think Cheyenne Mountain in present day) full of wonders beyond all imagining. This is where we discovered ancient flying ships the public call UFO's. This is how our goverment was able to advance our civilization so fast. Lazers, computers, fiber optics, night vision, robotics, gene splicing. All of this came from this area. This is all talked about in the bible and all other holy writings it's just talked about in different ways. Like the bible and ancient writings would say things like we were creating hybrids and fouling the genetic line of animals... today we call those animal bones dinosaurs. There Is a reason that all the dinosaurs bones in museums are either casts of the bones and not the bones themselves or they are painted with a lead paint the blocks the radiation that is coming off almost all of the dinosaur bones we have recovered. That's another fact they leave out for the public... they are erradiated like they were blasted by a nuclear bomb in a war. Oh... and this little fact makes all their dating totally bullshit yoo but they wont tell you that either.
Esoteric writings all say that Atlantis was ruled by Fallen Angels. Look into it... that's what they really say. Real fallen Angel's ruling Atlantis as God on Atlantis/earth then God punished them or they destroyed their civilization... somehow a flood wrecked everything. It looks like this was real and this area was as important 10,000 years ago as it is now.
If your still there I'll blow your mind more... I say Charles Manson was a real life, in flesh and blood fallen angel and that is why he was able to control his "family" the way he did. This is why he killed who he did. Just think of some of the movies Polanski and his wife were involved in before her death. Rosemary's baby and trying to berth the antichrist anyone? Anton LaVey's connection to a few of Manson's girls.
I just dont know if Manson figured this out on his own or if he got one of the government spooks that are all over Hollywood and Hollywood backlots talking with drugs/girls or both.
